[FieldTrip] Statistics: comparing conditions with different sample size

Yoni Levy yoniilevy at gmail.com
Thu Jan 22 13:26:00 CET 2015


Hi Julian

I indeed meant comparing within subject conditions, one with many more
trials than the other (e.g. 500 vs 100 trials). I am aware that this
difference would bias my result, the question is whether there might be a
way to bypass such bias, without the conservative solution of equating the
trial number in both conditions (i.e. removing 400 trials from condition1,
and thereby comparing 100 vs 100).
One possible solution that was suggested was to proceed with an indepT
test, and then proceeding with an "spm_t2z" transformation ; yet, I wonder
whether this is also valid for such large difference between sample sizes.

Thanks
Yoni


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> Is there a way in FT to deal with the statistical comparison of conditions
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> Thanks for any input
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> Dear Yoni,
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> do you mean different *group* sizes (as in 500 patients vs. 100 controls)?
> Then use the stat fun indepsamplesT.
> If you mean 500 trials vs 100 trials within one subject, you can again use
> the indepsamplesT-function, but beware! The number of trials can severely
> influence your signal.
> I personally strongly suggest using the same number of trials and subjects.
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> Best,
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> Julian
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> Am 22.01.2015 um 07:54 schrieb Yoni Levy:
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> > Is there a way in FT to deal with the statistical comparison of
> conditions with different sample size (for instance N = 500 vs N = 100)?
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> > Thanks for any input
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