[clean-list] Rebranding Clean

Mon Feb 11 14:50:09 MET 2008

I do not know much about Quechua. However, I know that genetic engineers used a word of this beautifully sounding language to name a DNA base (yes I have been taking classes in Life Sciences, in order to get College admittance). However, I know that Quechuas love knames that are sentences, or part of sentences. For instance, a very popular female name is IMASUMAX,  which means "What is beauty". Of course, the sister of "What is beauty?" can be "Beauty is...". Isn't it cute?

"Benjamin L. Russell" <dekudekuplex at yahoo.com> wrote: >  From the proposed names I could only imagine
> something like "KireiWa".
> Though native English and Japanese speakers should
> check that it does
>  not sound funny and whether it makes sense :-D

No, "KireiWa" would sound very strange as a name,
because the phoneme "wa" doubles as a static verb
having approximately the same meaning as "is" in
English, so, to a Japanese speaker, this would sound
like "Beautiful is ...." without the rest of the
sentence in Japanese.

Regarding similar names, though, there is a functional
programming language called "Qi"
(http://www.lambdassociates.org/aboutqi.htm).  The
term, meaning "life force"/"spiritual energy"
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi), is used effectively
in connection with the force of expression of the
lambda calculus related with this language. 
Therefore, I think that a similar alternative name for
Clean could be a good substitute.

Other terms that I can think of are the following:

* Wabi-sabi
This term (http://c2.com/w4/wikibase/?WabiSabi) would
not sound strange in Japanese, especially when
juxtaposed with the associated Kanji ("ä¾˜å¯‚") and an
illustration of a Japanese tea house
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2002_kenrokuen_hanami_0123.jpg).
 It is a Japanese literary term referring to "a
comprehensive Japanese world view or aesthetic
centered on the acceptance of transience."  In
referring to a sense of aesthetics, it would seem
related to the original name, "Clean."

* Ki (the Japanese equivalent of the Chinese term
"Qi")

* Satori (enlightenment) "æ‚Ÿã‚Š"
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satori)

* Gaia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_hypothesis)
("[a hypothesis that] living and nonliving parts of
the earth are viewed as a complex interacting system
that can be thought of as a single organism")

Other non-related alternative names that I can think
of are the following:

* Fugue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugue)
(a type of contrapuntal composition or technique of
composition for a fixed number of parts, normally
referred to as "voices", irrespective of whether the
work is vocal or instrumental:  Johann Sebastian Bach
composed a six-part fugue.)

I can't think of any more names right now; I may be
able to come up with something else later.

Benjamin L. Russell

--- Peter Hercek 
 wrote:

> If it is renamed at all most of the proposed names
> have significantly above
>  100000 hits on goole by themselves. Some are as bad
> as the current name.
>  You want something sufficiently unique. Best would
> be to create some
>  acronym which is unique enough.
>  From the proposed names I could only imagine
> something like "KireiWa".
> Though native English and Japanese speakers should
> check that it does
>  not sound funny and whether it makes sense :-D
> 
> Peter.
> 
> Benjamin L. Russell wrote:
> > Here are some of my original suggestions for a new
> > name for Concurrent Clean:
> >
> > * Curry
> >
> > * Clean Curry
> >
> > * Godel (in reference to Kurt Godel, a logician
> from
> > Austria-Hungary)
> >
> > * Escher (in reference to M. C. Escher, a Dutch
> > graphic artist with a mathematical approach to
> artwork
> > creation)
> >
> > * Bach (in reference to J. S. Bach, a German
> > composer/organist who composed a six-part fugue)
> >
> > * Kirei (a Japanese term for "beautiful/clean")
> >
> > * Wa (a Japanese term for "peace/balance/total")
> >
> > * Bi (a Japanese term for "beauty")
> >
> > * Quantum
> >
> > * Russell (in reference to Bertrand Russell, a
> British
> > logician)
> >
> > * Cantor (in reference to Georg Cantor, a German
> > mathematician)
> >
> > * Whitehead (in reference to Alfred North
> Whitehead, a
> > British logician)
> >
> > * Wittgenstein (in reference to Ludwig
> Wittgenstein,
> > an Austrian philosopher)
> >
> > * Turing (in reference to Alan Turing, an English
> > mathematician, logician, and cryptographer)
> >
> > * Church (in reference to Alonzo Church, an
> American
> > mathematician and logician)
> >
> > * Perlis (in reference to Alan Perlis, an American
> > computer scientist)
> >
> > * Nijmegen (the city in The Netherlands where
> Software
> > Technology Research Group, the makers of
> Concurrent
> > Clean, are located)
> >
> > * von Neumann (in reference to John von Neumann, a
> > Hungarian mathematican who developed the von
> Neumann
> > architecture)
> >
> > * Euclid (in reference to Euclid of Alexandria, a
> > Greek mathematician of the Hellenistic period)
> >
> > * Socrates (in reference to a classical Greek
> > philosopher of the same name, who created the
> Socratic
> > Method)
> >
> > Just for fun, may I also (somewhat facetiously)
> > suggest the following names, since they concern a
> > scientist from a different field (physics) who is
> > often associated with creativity and imagination:
> >
> > * Einstein (in reference to Albert Einstein, a
> > German-born theoretical physicist)
> >
> > * Lieserl (in reference to Lieserl Einstein,
> Albert
> > Einstein's daughter)
> >
> > * Mileva (in refernce to Mileva Maric, Albert
> > Einstein's wife)
> >
> > On another note, in the paper "A History of
> Haskell:
> > Being Lazy With Class"
> >
>
(http://research.microsoft.com/~simonpj/papers/history-of-haskell/history.pdf),
> > on the second column of page 4, a list of names
> that
> > were considered when naming Haskell is listed. 
> This
> > list could be useful when renaming Concurrent
> Clean. 
> > Those names are as follows:
> >
> > * Semla
> > * Haskell
> > * Vivaldi
> > * Mozart
> > * CFL (Common Functional Language)
> > * Funl 88
> > * Semlor
> > * Candle (Common Applicative Notation for Denoting
> > Lambda Expressions)
> > * Fun
> > * David
> > * Nice
> > * Light
> > * ML Nouveau (or Miranda Nouveau, or LML Nouveau,
> or
> > ...)
> > * Mirabelle
> > * Concord
> > * LL
> > * Slim
> > * Meet
> > * Leval
> > * Curry
> > * Frege
> > * Peano
> > * Ease
> > * Portland
> > * Haskell B Curry
> >
> > According to the report, after each participant
> then
> > crossed out a name that he disliked, the only name
> > left was "Curry."
> >
> > However, two of the participants then realized
> that
> > they "would be left with a lot of curry puns
> (aside
> > from the spice, and the thought of currying
> favour,
> > the one that truly horrified [them] was Tim
> Curry--TIM
> > was John Fairbairn's abstract machine, and Tim
> Curry
> > was famous for playing the lead in the Rocky
> Horror
> > Picture Show).  So the next day, after some
> further
> > discussion, [they] settled on 'Haskell' as the
> name
> > for the new language.  Only later did [they]
> realise
> > that this was too easily confused with Pascal or
> > Hassle!"
> >
> > Indeed, people in the United States often ask if I
> > mean "Pascal" when I say "Haskell," and it is easy
> to
> > confuse "hassle" and "hustle" (they sound exactly
> the
> > same in transliteration in Japanese) with
> "Haskell." 
> > One reader suggested the following name 
> >
> > * Hackell
> >
> > on a thread on the popular general Japanese
> discussion
> > forum "2 channel" (for those who can read
> Japanese,
> > the URL is
> >
>
http://pc11.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/tech/1128011645/42-142).
> >
> > As a last note, since "Clean" is an adjective, why
> not
> > the following adjective:
> >
> > * Curried
> >
> > Benjamin L. Russell
> >   
> 

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