[FieldTrip] Amplifier for EGI-data in fieldtrip???

Joseph Dien jdien07 at mac.com
Fri Sep 7 02:58:43 CEST 2012


By all means!

Joe

On Sep 6, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Daria Laptinskaya <daria.laptinskaya at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Thanks you all for the answers!
> It seems to be a problem with reading the raw.-files.
> My collegue found a formula, maybe we can use it for microvolt-scaling.
> 
> @Joe: It would be a great helf, if you could have a look at one of the files.
> Can I send you a dropbox-link?
> 
> Best,
> Daria
> 
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> 2012/9/6 Joseph Dien <jdien07 at mac.com>
> The Simple Binary (.raw) files don't get corrected for gain when imported (I helped write them).  I've experienced occasional unpredictable bugs with NetStation export routines where the files are generated with amplitudes many times too large, even with text format files.  It's a bit disconcerting to say the least.  I could take a look at your files if you'd like confirmation.
> 
> Joe
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> On Sep 4, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Ingrid Nieuwenhuis <inieuwenhuis at BERKELEY.EDU> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Daria,
>> 
>> Also, did you try looking at your raw data (so before the ERPs are made) in FieldTrip and in Net Station? So open your .raw data in NetStation. You can just look at a random participant's data, and check if the scale is the same. I'm pretty sure no amplification takes place when reading in the data into FieldTrip, this check can confirm that. Hope this helps, and let us know what you find.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ingrid
>> 
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>> On 9/3/2012 1:35 PM, Robert Oostenveld wrote:
>>> Hi Daria,
>>> 
>>> There might indeed be an incompatibility in the gain  value applied to the data.
>>> 
>>> If you are able to export the data using the EGI software in another format (e.g. EDF), you could read them both into FieldTrip and compare the timecourse aplitudes to check whether they are different. In case they are, I suggest to involve EGI support. They are aware of the FieldTrip reading functions and will know much more about the internals of their various file formats.
>>> 
>>> best regards
>>> Robert
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3 Sep 2012, at 17:22, Daria Laptinskaya wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear Fieldtrippers,
>>>> 
>>>> I analysed EGI-data (.raw-files, NetStation 4.3.) with the fieldtrip toolbox. 
>>>> The ERPs look perfect. 
>>>> The 'only' problem is, that my signals look to strong.
>>>> It looks like if I get amplitutes (average) until 70 µV. 
>>>> I think it must be an intern amplifier for the signals.
>>>> Does anyone know this problem with EGI-data?
>>>> 
>>>> Or does anyone know, where I can see the amplifier?
>>>> 
>>>> 
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