megplanar input structure

jan-mathijs schoffelen jan.schoffelen at DONDERS.RU.NL
Tue Sep 21 11:36:51 CEST 2010


Dear Akiko,

I think that your crash may be related to the issue of missing
channels. Antony already pointed you to a way how to fix this. As to
your first question: ft_megplanar indeed works with data containing a
trial field (as cell-array). However, no need for you to worry about
this; if your input data is for example a 'timelock' structure,
fieldtrip automatically converts this structure into one containing a
'trial'.

Best wishes,

Jan-Mathijs


On Sep 20, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Akiko Ikkai wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to calculate the planar gradient for my MEG data. I have
> 2 questions:
>
> 1. in tutorial "Event related averaging and planar gradient",
> (ft_)megplanar appears to call for averaged data created with
> cfg.keeptrials = 'no'; (how it was calculated earlier in the page),
> which looks like: (from tutorial)
>
> avgFIC =
>         avg: [149x900 double]
>         var: [149x900 double]
>     fsample: 300
>  numsamples: [77x1 double]
>        time: [1x900 double]
>         dof: [149x900 double]
>       label: {149x1 cell}
>      dimord: 'chan_time'
>        grad: [1x1 struct]
>         cfg: [1x1 struct]
>
> However, megplanar looks for data.trial (e.g. line 252). If I feed
> in averaged data with  cfg.keeptrials = 'yes'; input structure looks
> like: (from my data, after timelockanalysis with cfg.keeptrials =
> 'yes';)
>
> timelock =
>
>        avg: [156x751 double]
>        var: [156x751 double]
>    fsample: 500
>       time: [1x751 double]
>        dof: [156x751 double]
>      label: {1x156 cell}
>      trial: [72x156x751 double]
>     dimord: 'rpt_chan_time'
>        cfg: [1x1 struct]
>
> However, data.trial is matrix instead of cell structure, as
> megplanar requires (e.g. line 505:
> interp.trial{i} = transform * data.trial{i}(dataindx,:);  ), it
> crashes here.
>
> Also in tutorial, it appears that the sequence of analysis is
> ft_megplanar -> ft_timelockanalysis -> ft_combineplanar, where I
> suspect ft_timelockanalysis should be before calculating planar
> gradients...?
>
>
> 2. How to deal with bad channels in calculating planar gradient? It
> is suggested that we do preprocessing, timelockanalysis, megplanar
> and combineplanar. However, if I have bad channels and reject them
> in preprocessing, combineplanar crashes @ line 326
>
> if all(size(orig.pnt)==[302 3]) && ...
>    all(size(orig.pnt)==[302 3]) && ...
>    all(size(orig.tra)==[302 302]) && ...
>    length(orig.label)==302 && ...
>    all(sum(orig.tra~=0,1)>2)
>
> because length(orig.label) is not going to be 302. Could I simply
> change these lines to something like:
>
> if all(size(orig.pnt)==[length(orig.label) 3]) && ...
>    all(size(orig.pnt)==[length(orig.label) 3]) && ...
>    all(size(orig.tra)==[length(orig.label) length(orig.label)]) && ...
>    all(sum(orig.tra~=0,1)>2)
>
>
> If anyone could clarify these issues, I'd greatly appreciate it.
> Thanks in advance! Akiko
>
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Dr. J.M. (Jan-Mathijs) Schoffelen
Donders Institute for Brain, Cognition and Behaviour,
Centre for Cognitive Neuroimaging,
Radboud University Nijmegen, The Netherlands
J.Schoffelen at donders.ru.nl
Telephone: 0031-24-3668063

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