freqstastics script
Eric Maris
e.maris at DONDERS.RU.NL
Sat Sep 19 22:26:40 CEST 2009
Dear Claudia,
> I'm just surprised no one has written one before. MEG data generally
requires non-
> parametric statistics and the kruskalwallis test for freqstatistics was
the only option
> I found for this in fieldtrip. Am I right about this?
The story is a bit more complicated. One must make a distinction between a
test statistic and its reference distribution (the distribution under which
the p-value is calculated). Many users of Fieldtrip use it to do
cluster-based permutation tests. These are non-parametric tests because the
p-value is calculated under a non-parametric reference distribution.
However, the test statistic for which this p-value is calculated often
involves the classical test statistics like F and T, for which parametric
reference distributions exist. These parametric reference distributions do
not play role in the whether or not the cluster-based permutation tests
control the false alarm rate.
This argument allows one to do non-parametric testing with test statistics
that are inspired by classical parametric statistics. This is all much
better explained in Maris & Oostenveld (2007). Thus, the Kruskal-Wallis test
statistic is not required if you want to use the non-parametric
cluster-based permutation tests in Fieldtrip.
I'm sorry if this sounds complicated. One just needs to go a little bit in
the theory to get the ideas straight.
Best,
Eric Maris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan-Mathijs Schoffelen [mailto:j.schoffelen at PSY.GLA.AC.UK]
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 4:56 AM
> To: FIELDTRIP at NIC.SURFNET.NL
> Subject: Re: [FIELDTRIP] freqstastics script
>
> You will have to write a statfun_kruskalwallis.
>
> Best,
>
> Jan-Mathijs
>
>
>
> On 18 Sep 2009, at 19:15, Bonin, Claudia (NIH/NINDS) [F] wrote:
>
> > DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO USE THE FIELDTRIP FUNCTION
> FREQSTATISTICS TO
> > RUN A KRUSKALWALLIS TEST?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: FieldTrip discussion list [mailto:FIELDTRIP at NIC.SURFNET.NL] On
> > Behalf Of Bonin, Claudia (NIH/NINDS) [F]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:06 PM
> > To: FIELDTRIP at NIC.SURFNET.NL
> > Subject: Re: [FIELDTRIP] freqstastics script
> >
> > Hi. I am having trouble getting a freqstastics script to run to do a
> > Kruskalwallis test. Thre freqgrandaverage works but I am having
> > trouble with the arguments for the Kruskalwallis. I have pasted in
> > the script and the error message in this email. Has anyone written
> > a script using freqsstatistics to do Kruskalwallis? I would love to
> > see it or get some direction on the arguments that need to be
> > assigned....Also I made up an argument for cfg.design but I don't
> > really understand what this assignment is. Could anyone elaborate?
> > Thank you!
> > claudia Bonin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > here's the error message
> >
> > isnan(data.time)
> > ??? Undefined function or method 'isnan' for input arguments of type
> > 'cell'.
> >
> > computing average power over 21 subjects
> > Warning: discarding gradiometer information
> >> In freqgrandaverage at 121
> > In tf2_virt_all_plot at 11
> >
> > here's the script.....
> >
> >
> > Nsubj = 21;
> >
> > for subj = 1:Nsubj
> > fname = ['/home/boninc/tfresults/subj' 64 + subj];
> > clear fr
> > load(fname);
> > frs(subj) = fr;
> > end
> >
> > cfg = [];
> > [gr] = freqgrandaverage(cfg, frs(1), frs(2), frs(3), frs(4), frs(5),
> > frs(6), frs(7), frs(8), frs(9), frs(10), frs(11), frs(12), frs(13),
> > frs(14), frs(15), frs(16), frs(17), frs(18), frs(19), frs(20),
> > frs(21));
> >
> > %cfg = [];
> > %cfg.alpha = .05;
> > %cfg.method = 'stats';
> > %cfg.design = 1:21;
> > %cfg.statistic = 'kruskalwallis';
> > %[stat] = freqstatistics(cfg, frs(1), frs(2), frs(3), frs(4),
> > frs(5), frs(6), frs(7), frs(8), frs(9), frs(10), frs(11), frs(12),
> > frs(13), frs(14), frs(15), frs(16), frs(17), frs(18), frs(19),
> > frs(20), frs(21));
> >
> > clf
> > contourf(gr.time, gr.freq, squeeze(sum(gr.powspctrm))); colorbar
> > %contourf(gr.time, gr.freq, gr.powspctrm); colorbar
> >
> > title '21 Subjects, RandL, RIGHT Central Motor'
> > xlabel 'time, sec'
> > ylabel 'frequency, Hz'
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: FieldTrip discussion list [FIELDTRIP at NIC.SURFNET.NL] On Behalf
> > Of Hanneke Van Dijk [Hanneke.vanDijk at MED.UNI-DUESSELDORF.DE]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 7:21 AM
> > To: FIELDTRIP at NIC.SURFNET.NL
> > Subject: [FIELDTRIP] AW: [FIELDTRIP] freqstastics script
> >
> > Dear Claudia,
> >
> > Normally when matlab says 'undefined function for input of
> > type ....' it means it cannot find the specific function in the
> > paths you have defined. You can check whether neighbourselection.m
> > is in your fieldtrip folder, if not I have attached it (version
> > 20090428) so you can put it there. If this doesn't fix it please let
> > me know!
> >
> > Groetjes Hanneke
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: FieldTrip discussion list im Auftrag von Bonin, Claudia (NIH/
> > NINDS) [F]
> > Gesendet: Mi 09.09.2009 18:26
> > An: FIELDTRIP at NIC.SURFNET.NL
> > Betreff: [FIELDTRIP] freqstastics script
> >
> > I am trying to do statistics on time-frequency data across 16
> > subjects, averaging over channels. I received back the following
> > error about 'neighbourselection' which means nothing to me.....Does
> > anyone have any idea what might be wrong here? I have pasted in the
> > exact message below.
> > thanks!
> > claudia
> >
> >
> >>> cfg.statistic = 'kruskalwallis';
> >>> cfg.method = 'stats';
> >>> [s] = freqstatistics(cfg, fr, fr);
> > averaging over 3 channels
> > selected 50 time bins
> > selected 41 frequency bins
> > Warning: PACK can only be used from the MATLAB command line.
> >> In fieldtrip/private/prepare_timefreq_data at 305
> > In fieldtrip/private/statistics_wrapper at 167
> > In freqstatistics at 44
> > ??? Undefined function or method 'neighbourselection' for input
> > arguments of type
> > 'struct'.
> >
> > Error in ==> statistics_wrapper at 181
> > cfg = neighbourselection(cfg,varargin{1});
> >
> > Error in ==> freqstatistics at 44
> > [stat] = statistics_wrapper(cfg, varargin{:});
> > ----------------------------------
> > The aim of this list is to facilitate the discussion between users
> > of the FieldTrip toolbox, to share experiences and to discuss new
> > ideas for MEG and EEG analysis. See also
> http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/fieldtrip.html
> > and http://www.ru.nl/neuroimaging/fieldtrip.
> >
> >
> >
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> > of the FieldTrip toolbox, to share experiences and to discuss new
> > ideas for MEG and EEG analysis. See also
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> > and http://www.ru.nl/neuroimaging/fieldtrip.
> >
> > ----------------------------------
> > The aim of this list is to facilitate the discussion between users
> > of the FieldTrip toolbox, to share experiences and to discuss new
> > ideas for MEG and EEG analysis. See also
> http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/fieldtrip.html
> > and http://www.ru.nl/neuroimaging/fieldtrip.
> >
> > ----------------------------------
> > The aim of this list is to facilitate the discussion between users
> > of the FieldTrip toolbox, to share experiences and to discuss new
> > ideas for MEG and EEG analysis. See also
> http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/fieldtrip.html
> > and http://www.ru.nl/neuroimaging/fieldtrip.
>
> ----------------------------------
> The aim of this list is to facilitate the discussion between users of the
FieldTrip
> toolbox, to share experiences and to discuss new ideas for MEG and EEG
analysis.
> See also http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/fieldtrip.html and
> http://www.ru.nl/neuroimaging/fieldtrip.
>
> ----------------------------------
> The aim of this list is to facilitate the discussion between users of the
FieldTrip
> toolbox, to share experiences and to discuss new ideas for MEG and EEG
analysis.
> See also http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/fieldtrip.html and
> http://www.ru.nl/neuroimaging/fieldtrip.
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