<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear all,<div><br></div><div>Note that shuffling the epochs with respect to one another (where for one of the channels in the pair the epoch order stays fixed) usually yields a too liberal null-distribution. The reason is that the shuffling also destroys all structure in the data that is due to electromagnetic field spread. So, even if an observed pattern of PLV is caused by a single underlying neural generator, shuffling the epochs most likely makes this pattern 'significant'. However, it still does not reflect physiological interaction between sources.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Jan-Mathijs</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On May 18, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Sheraz Khan wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">You can randomly shift in time the epochs, to compute null-distribution, and then threshold at some p-value say p < 0.01, you can even correct for multiple comparison in space and time using this principle.<div>
<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Subramaniam Iyer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eeguser@hotmail.com" target="_blank">eeguser@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><div dir="ltr">Dear FT Experts,<br>
<br>
I have calculated PLV for a set of EEG data from 5 different patients.
Now I want to convert the PLV matrix of each patient into a binary
matrix. For this I need a threshold PLV value below which I can assume
the phase locking is zero.<br>
My question is, how do I compute this threshold. I know hard
thresholding is one option ( for ex setting 0.1 or 0.2 as threshold),
but I guess it is not a very good option.<br>
<br>
Can somebody suggest a better and robust (statistical) way of determining the threshold ? </div></div>
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