<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Comparing the 'whole head'-sources like this sounds ok to me!<div><br></div><div>Bets, Stan<br><br><hr id="zwchr"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;"><b>Van: </b>"Hanneke van Dijk" <Hanneke.vanDijk@med.uni-duesseldorf.de><br><b>Aan: </b>"FieldTrip discussion list" <fieldtrip@science.ru.nl><br><b>Verzonden: </b>Maandag 25 juni 2012 14:50:17<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [FieldTrip] source analysis: common filter<br><br>Hi Stan,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your reply!</div><div><br></div><div>Virtual channel analysis will be a step in my analysis as well! </div><div><br></div><div>I hope I will get something sensible out of the whole head analysis though, that's (also) why I decided to use these mni_normalized grids. So to first do sourceanalysis for all sessions and conditions (--> all gridpoints are at the same positions for all subjects and sessions) and then compare the 'whole head' sources would also be valid I suppose. I then just have to live with the fact that I use different filters for the two sessions...</div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><font size="3">Hi Hanneke,</font><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
<br></div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">If my understanding is correct, you cannot use common filters over all sessions, exactly because of the reason you mention (different spatial relation between sensors and the head/brain). Using common filters within a session is ok of course (to look at effect of condition on a source's activity).</div>
<div><font size="3">What you could do as an alternative is compute virtual sensor time courses for the source-of-interest, separately for both sessions, and </font>subsequently<font size="3"> append these (source-level) data afterwards (and then your contrasts/statistics).</font></div>
<div><br></div><div><font size="3"></font>Hope this helps.</div><div><br></div><div>Stan</div><div><br></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">-- </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Van: </b>"Hanneke vanDijk" <<a href="mailto:Hanneke.vanDijk@med.uni-duesseldorf.de" target="_blank">Hanneke.vanDijk@med.uni-duesseldorf.de</a>><br><b>Aan: </b><a href="mailto:fieldtrip@donders.ru.nl" target="_blank">fieldtrip@donders.ru.nl</a><br>
<b>Verzonden: </b>Maandag 25 juni 2012 10:44:59<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>[FieldTrip] source analysis: common filter<div><div class="h5"><br><br><div><p class="MsoNormal">Dear all,</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">
Currently I am analyzing data of an experiment in which subjects perform two conditions in two sessions. They have been out of the MEG system between the sessions.</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">For sourceanalysis I am using mni-normalized headmodels and grids. This because in the two sessions the subjects are probably seated slightly differently in the MEG system. (Thus I have separate headmodels and grids for the two sessions).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Currently I am using a common filter for analyzing the two conditions <u>within </u>a session. I am wondering however if it would be (even) possible and if yes, more, or less correct to use a common filter over all conditions/sessions.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Best Regards,</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Hanneke</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">__________________________________________</span></p>
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