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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Dear Gopa and Almu,<BR>
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do I understand the procedure correctly: we should export data from 4D in FIF format (currently we export in native e,... (binary), and the text files for the header and the surface points), and then use a modified xyz file containing the layout of 148 sensors. I would be grateful for one sample xyz file to see whether we can read data this way. Naturally, the best would be to incorporate it into the reading procedures of FieldTrip.<BR>
<BR>
Best wishes<BR>
Andrej<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Prof. Andrej Stancak, PhD.<BR>
The University of Liverpool<BR>
School of Psychology<BR>
The Eleanor Rathbone Building<BR>
Bedford Street South, Room 209<BR>
Liverpool<BR>
L69 7ZA<BR>
<BR>
E:mail: a.stancak@liverpool.ac.uk (primary)<BR>
stancak@centrum.cz (secondary)<BR>
Phone: 0151 7946951<BR>
Office hours: Monday 10-12, Wednesday 10-12<BR>
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<BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: FieldTrip discussion list on behalf of Gopakumar Venugopalan<BR>
Sent: Mon 06/10/2008 14:12<BR>
To: FIELDTRIP@NIC.SURFNET.NL<BR>
Subject: Re: [FIELDTRIP] 4D data reading<BR>
<BR>
Dear Almu (that is a nice name!) thank you Rob Oostenveld, Christian<BR>
Weinbruch and Arno (EEGLAB) may be the ones who can make it work for<BR>
the other users. There was also a discussion about whether the systems<BR>
were using third order gradiometers and/or magnetometers as the<BR>
reference. There are mail postings in that thread.<BR>
Everyone: I apologize for the typos in my hastily composed response<BR>
earlier.<BR>
regards<BR>
gopa<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Quoting Almudena Capilla <a.capilla@PSY.GLA.AC.UK>:<BR>
<BR>
> Dear Gopa,<BR>
><BR>
> I have got a template for the 4D - 148 channels system. I could give<BR>
> it to<BR>
> the Fieldtrip developers if this is helpful for other users of this<BR>
> system.<BR>
><BR>
> Best,<BR>
> Almu<BR>
><BR>
> -----Original Message-----<BR>
> From: FieldTrip discussion list [<A HREF="mailto:FIELDTRIP@NIC.SURFNET.NL">mailto:FIELDTRIP@NIC.SURFNET.NL</A>] On<BR>
> Behalf<BR>
> Of Gopakumar Venugopalan<BR>
> Sent: 06 October 2008 13:22<BR>
> To: FIELDTRIP@NIC.SURFNET.NL<BR>
> Subject: Re: [FIELDTRIP] 4D data reading<BR>
><BR>
> Hello everyone, I have been wrestling with these problems for a while<BR>
><BR>
> too.<BR>
> Here is what I found: Fieldtrip/EEGLAB will read neuroscan files<BR>
> (.avg,<BR>
> and .eeg), and will read raw data (e,..)from 4D.<BR>
> I believe that EEGLAB/Fieldtrip may not have a template for the 148-<BR>
> Channel system co-ordinates. Christian and Don Rojas created one for<BR>
> me<BR>
> in early April this year.<BR>
> A FIF export from the 4D system may also solve this problem. Stephen<BR>
><BR>
> Moratti helped me with this a while a ago. It puts out three<BR>
> files .xyz, .4D and the original e,.. file. But, if the .xyz file<BR>
> which<BR>
> has coordinates for 148 channels does not match with the template,<BR>
> then<BR>
> the data will not load. I think for one may have to load a create a<BR>
> 148<BR>
> channel template for this purpose. This is my experience with EEGLAB,<BR>
><BR>
> and I think that they underlying engine is the same for both EEGLAB<BR>
> and<BR>
> Fieldtrip<BR>
> Then again, I may be completely wrong about everything except the<BR>
> templates that were created for me.<BR>
> regards<BR>
> gopa<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
> Quoting "Stancak, Andrej" <A.Stancak@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>:<BR>
><BR>
> > Dear all,<BR>
> ><BR>
> > we have some problems reading 4D Neuroimaging MEG data (148<BR>
> > sensors). For now, we export original 4D data into BESA format,<BR>
> and<BR>
> > then read those into FieldTrip. This is not optimal, as e.g.<BR>
> gradient<BR>
> > coils information is not transferred into FieldTrip. We would be<BR>
> > grateful for a plugin or a hint enabling us to read the 4D data<BR>
> > directly into FieldTrip.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > Best wishes<BR>
> > Andrej Stancak<BR>
> ><BR>
> ><BR>
> > Prof. Andrej Stancak, PhD.<BR>
> > The University of Liverpool<BR>
> > School of Psychology<BR>
> > The Eleanor Rathbone Building<BR>
> > Bedford Street South, Room 209<BR>
> > Liverpool<BR>
> > L69 7ZA<BR>
> ><BR>
> > E:mail: a.stancak@liverpool.ac.uk (primary)<BR>
> > stancak@centrum.cz (secondary)<BR>
> > Phone: 0151 7946951<BR>
> > Office hours: Monday 10-12, Wednesday 10-12<BR>
> ><BR>
> ><BR>
> > ----------------------------------<BR>
> > The aim of this list is to facilitate the discussion between users<BR>
> of<BR>
> > the FieldTrip toolbox, to share experiences and to discuss new<BR>
> ideas<BR>
> > for MEG and EEG analysis. See also<BR>
> > <A HREF="http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/fieldtrip.html">http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/fieldtrip.html</A> and<BR>
> > <A HREF="http://www.ru.nl/fcdonders/fieldtrip">http://www.ru.nl/fcdonders/fieldtrip</A>.<BR>
> ><BR>
><BR>
> ----------------------------------<BR>
> The aim of this list is to facilitate the discussion between users of<BR>
> the<BR>
> FieldTrip toolbox, to share experiences and to discuss new ideas for<BR>
> MEG<BR>
> and EEG analysis. See also<BR>
> <A HREF="http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/fieldtrip.html">http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/fieldtrip.html</A> and<BR>
> <A HREF="http://www.ru.nl/fcdonders/fieldtrip">http://www.ru.nl/fcdonders/fieldtrip</A>.<BR>
><BR>
> ----------------------------------<BR>
> The aim of this list is to facilitate the discussion between users of<BR>
> the FieldTrip toolbox, to share experiences and to discuss new ideas<BR>
> for MEG and EEG analysis. See also<BR>
> <A HREF="http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/fieldtrip.html">http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/fieldtrip.html</A> and<BR>
> <A HREF="http://www.ru.nl/fcdonders/fieldtrip">http://www.ru.nl/fcdonders/fieldtrip</A>.<BR>
><BR>
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The aim of this list is to facilitate the discussion between users of the FieldTrip toolbox, to share experiences and to discuss new ideas for MEG and EEG analysis. See also <A HREF="http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/fieldtrip.html">http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/fieldtrip.html</A> and <A HREF="http://www.ru.nl/fcdonders/fieldtrip">http://www.ru.nl/fcdonders/fieldtrip</A>.<BR>
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<p>The aim of this list is to facilitate the discussion between users of the FieldTrip toolbox, to share experiences and to discuss new ideas for MEG and EEG analysis.</p>
<p> http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/fieldtrip.html</p>
<p> http://www.ru.nl/fcdonders/fieldtrip/</p>