<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>hi,</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>take a look here:</div><div><a href="http://www2.ru.nl/fcdonders/fieldtrip/doku.php?id=fieldtrip:documentation:tutorial:statistics">http://www2.ru.nl/fcdonders/fieldtrip/doku.php?id=fieldtrip:documentation:tutorial:statistics</a></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>if you want to use a permutation test, then your case is a variation of what's described under 2.2, i.e. you have to change the statistic (probably indepsamplesT) and adapt the design matrix described in the same tutorial. in the tutorial you will find descriptions on how to interpret the output.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>hth,</div><div>n</div><br><div><div>On 18.03.2008, at 09:51, Margriet Groen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Dear Fieldtrip users,<br><br>I would like to statistically compare the topographies of two groups of participants. Is there a way to do this in Fieldtrip? Maybe using permutation tests?<br><br>Thanks for your help.<br><br>Best wishes,<br><br>Margriet Groen<br><br>-- <br>=================================<br>Dr. Margriet A. Groen<br>Post-doctoral researcher<br>University of Hamburg<br>Biological Psychology and Neuropsychology<br>Von-Melle-Park 11<br>20146 Hamburg<br>Germany<br><br>Phone: +49-40-42838-5838<br>Fax: +49-40-42838-6591<br>Email: <a href="mailto:margriet.groen@uni-hamburg.de">margriet.groen@uni-hamburg.de</a><br>Website: <a href="http://bpn.uni-hamburg.de/groen_e.html">http://bpn.uni-hamburg.de/groen_e.html</a><br>=================================<br><br>----------------------------------<br>The aim of this list is to facilitate the discussion between users of the FieldTrip  toolbox, to share experiences and to discuss new ideas for MEG and EEG analysis. See also <a href="http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/fieldtrip.html">http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/fieldtrip.html</a> and <a href="http://www.ru.nl/fcdonders/fieldtrip">http://www.ru.nl/fcdonders/fieldtrip</a>.<br></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: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px; font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Bitstream Vera Sans; font-size: 10.8px; font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Bitstream Vera Sans; font-size: 10.8px; font-style: italic; ">See <a href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html</a></span></span></i></span></font></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br></body></html><p>----------------------------------</p>
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