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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear List member,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry for such dull questions but,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am again facing the new problems with Fieldtrip,
although did not solve some previous one (still can not singleplot and multiplot
anything 'cause of "unknown zparam field".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>OK, about new one :-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It seems that I did not use write the
timelockgranaveraging.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> The problem must be here, when I made grand averaging of all my 11
subject<BR> data<BR><BR>
cfg
=[];<BR>
cfg.keepindividual =
'yes'<BR>
C_vc11
=<BR> timelockgrandaverage(cfg,vc_c_avg1,vc_c_avg2,vc_c_avg3,vc_c_avg4,vc_c_avg5,
vc_c_avg6,vc_c_avg7,vc_c_avg8,vc_c_avg9,vc_c_avg10,vc_c_avg11 );<BR></DIV>
<DIV>As I understand the </DIV>
<DIV>vc_c_avg11.avg([9],[43]) should be similar with C_vc11.individual ([11],
[9], [43])<BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>But it is not.</FONT><BR>What can it
be?<BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Olga.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=olga@GRAPHICMIND.INFO href="mailto:olga@GRAPHICMIND.INFO">Olga
Sysoeva</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=FIELDTRIP@NIC.SURFNET.NL
href="mailto:FIELDTRIP@NIC.SURFNET.NL">FIELDTRIP@NIC.SURFNET.NL</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 13, 2006 4:34
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [FIELDTRIP]
clusterrandomization on 3D-data within-subject</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thank you very much, Lilla!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now I knwo what to do but faced the problem with
" unknown zparam field" when ploting the results. Unfortunatly cfg.zparam does
not discribed in help file...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best Regards, Olga</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Lilla.Magyari@FCDONDERS.RU.NL
href="mailto:Lilla.Magyari@FCDONDERS.RU.NL">Lilla Magyari</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=FIELDTRIP@NIC.SURFNET.NL
href="mailto:FIELDTRIP@NIC.SURFNET.NL">FIELDTRIP@NIC.SURFNET.NL</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:11
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [FIELDTRIP]
clusterrandomization on 3D-data within-subject</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dear
Olga,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am just studying
time-frequency analysis but I have done already on my data, so perhaps I can
help you.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">First, yes, you
have to do freqanalysis on the preprocessed data of the individual subjects
for all conditions that you want to compare (i.e. the input for this
function contains all trials from one subject in one condition.) And it is
also important that the other input for this function is the cfg where for
example, in the cfg.method you have to specify what kind of time-frequency
analysis you want to use. (You have to write ‘wltconvol’ for wavelet
transformation and ‘mltconvol’ for multitaper
analysis.)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">When you use
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">freqanalysis</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Courier New"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">as output you can
get TFR for one subject in one condition (but it is also possible to keep
the information for the individual trials of the condition by specifying
cfg.keeptrials = ‘yes’). When you have the TFRs for each subject you can
grandaverage them with freqgrandaverage where the input is the TFRs of all
subjects (and before averaging you can use also freqbaseline for giving a
baseline for your TFRs).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I hope it
helps.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Lilla
Magyari<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
FieldTrip discussion list [mailto:FIELDTRIP@NIC.SURFNET.NL] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Olga Sysoeva<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:28
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
FIELDTRIP@NIC.SURFNET.NL<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [FIELDTRIP]
clusterrandomization on 3D-data
within-subject</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dear list
members,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thank you everybody for your
help! I've already got interesting results using clusterrandomization on my
data! Thanks a lot!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Now I have a question about
using the clusterrandomization on 3-D data (channel-time-frequency) in
within-subject analysis. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As I understand it is possible
with Fieldtrip, but I really newby in time-frequency anlysis, therefore
wanted your comments, </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">as far as I didn't find the
example of the application of clusteranalysis on this set of the data in
tuturial.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I successfully conduct the
within-subject clusterrandomization on my grand-average data, which does not
have the third, frequency demintion.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Now I want to add it. But I
could not apply freqanalyisis on grandavarage data, could I? Should I
made the TFR of individual data and than grand-avarage the
result?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Which function should I
use?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Best
Regards,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Olga.</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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